xml:id RE: [sc34wg3] Compact syntax requirement question

Bernard Vatant sc34wg3@isotopicmaps.org
Wed, 20 Jul 2005 16:25:46 +0200

Amen, Jim :))

Bernard Vatant
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> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : sc34wg3-admin@isotopicmaps.org
> [mailto:sc34wg3-admin@isotopicmaps.org]De la part de Mason, James David
> (MXM)
> Envoye : mercredi 20 juillet 2005 14:54
> A : sc34wg3@isotopicmaps.org
> Objet : RE: xml:id RE: [sc34wg3] Compact syntax requirement question
> \rho wrote: If conjecture [A] is true, my argument, then, would be "if XTM (+
> DTD/Relax/Schema) cannot guarantee that my content which I put in with this
> nifty-hefty-trendy XML development thingy is TMDM-sane, how does XTM editing
> make sense at all?"
> It makes just about the same sense as editing any XML document. That is to
> say, given almost any DTD/schema and a syntax-directed editor, I can write a
> document that is syntactically valid but is otherwise nonsense. I've been
> generating documents like that for the whole 20-odd years I've been messing
> with SGML/XML because I need test cases to run software on, but I don't care
> about their content. 
> Content is the author's responsibility. If I want my XML file to make sense,
> I'm responsible for making sense, and there's no schema language on earth
> that can enforce that for the kinds of information with which I work.
> However, syntax-directed editors are useful because they allow me to
> concentrate on content, not writing code wrappers for content. I knew even
> before I got into computing that my typing skills were somewhat limited, and
> even at the beginning of SGML I needed a syntax-directed editor to protect me
> from my fingers. 
> I don't care whether CTM can be typed in Notepad. I don't care that XTM is
> verbose. Given a choice between typing CTM in Notepad and generating XTM in
> one of the syntax-directed editors on my machine, I'll go with the
> syntax-directed editor every time. I'll even pay money for syntax-directed
> editors to do that (and I have).
> Jim Mason
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