[sc34wg3] Almost arbitrary markup in resourceData

[Freese, Eric D. (LNG-DAY)]

As I said (when the 3rd time was the charm) - No, XHTML is not enough for my
requirements because we want to use full (real) XML with our own semantic
markup.  I doubt XHTML would even meet a 20% usefulness level for us.
Anyone else?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sc34wg3-admin@isotopicmaps.org
> [mailto:sc34wg3-admin@isotopicmaps.org]On Behalf Of Murray Altheim
> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 7:58 AM
> To: sc34wg3@isotopicmaps.org
> Subject: Re: [sc34wg3] Almost arbitrary markup in resourceData
> 
> 
> Patrick Durusau wrote:
> > Eric,
> > 
> > Freese, Eric D. (LNG-DAY) wrote:
> > 
> > <snip>
> > 
> >>I am speaking from the front lines of the user community, 
> not the tool
> >>vendor community, not the acedemic community.  I'm claiming 
> my stake as part
> >>of the target market - the people who want to make money 
> using the tools and
> >>standard as opposed to those implementing or studying.  
> > 
> > 
> > Ouch! Or as Charley Brown would say, "He nicked me with a nyah!" ;-)
> > 
> > The academic community has suffered at the hands of 
> standards bodies 
> > that prefer texts that are dumbed down until they meet 
> capricious limits 
> > on parsing/processing. Well, the users in the academic 
> community at any 
> > rate.
> > 
> > I think Eric's point is well taken and the various parts of 
> the topic 
> > map standard need to take it into account. Standards that insure 
> > information is interchangeable but that do not meet the 
> needs of users 
> > are interesting, but irrelevant.
> > 
> > As Eric and others have suggested, we are not faced with 
> choosing either 
> > interchange or usefulness. Both are possible in the topic 
> maps standard, 
> > but only if we show some imagination and ingenuity in devising a 
> > solution that meets both requirements. To choose one 
> without the other 
> > is a recipe for failure.
> 
> Well, the sixth time is a charm:  would the XHTML+XTM DTD meet the
> 80/20 point? That's the question. Can we avoid arbitrary markup by
> providing a specific hybrid that solves the problem for 80% of the
> users who need extended abilities? As I've said, I'm even willing
> to do that work if it means avoiding arbitrary markup in a standard,
> which I will continue to maintain is a nonsequitor.
> 
> Murray
> 
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