[sc34wg3] Let's revert to N323!

Derek Millar sc34wg3@isotopicmaps.org
Thu, 20 Feb 2003 15:55:28 -0500


Hi everyone,
Hoping a late comment is better than none at all, I'm in agreement
with continuing to use N323 as the "roadmap" - I don't see anything that
no longer applies or is not relevant for what has gone on and what
continues to be worked on. The main issue is resolving the relationship
between the SAM and the RM. I see this as the biggest hurdle to get over
in order to complete the work outlined in N358, which Canada will
be approving with comments to this effect.

-Derek.

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Steve Pepper [SMTP:pepper@ontopia.net]
> Sent:	Sunday, February 02, 2003 11:30 AM
> To:	sc34wg3@isotopicmaps.org
> Subject:	[sc34wg3] Let's revert to N323!
> 
> Baltimore was a very productive meeting in many ways, especially
> in terms of resolving issues in the SAM. But the decisions we took
> relating to the "roadmap" have simply caused confusion.
> 
> Until then we had documented consensus on the direction we were
> taking, as shown in N323
> 
>     http://www.y12.doe.gov/sgml/sc34/document/0323.htm
> 
> In summary, this consensus consisted of the following:
> 
> (1)  13250 would be "restated" as a multipart standard with the SAM
>       as its core.
> (2)  Separate parts would be devoted to the XTM and HyTM syntaxes
>       respectively. Each would include a deserialization specification
>       expressed in terms of the SAM as well as a specification of the
>       syntax itself.
> (3)  A separate part would be devoted to the canonicalization syntax,
>       again expressed in terms of the SAM.
> (4)  TMCL and TMQL would be separate standards defined in terms of the
>       SAM.
> (5)  The Reference Model would constitute a separate part of 13250 and
>       there would be a mapping from the RM to the SAM.
> 
> In Baltimore we changed this "roadmap" in two separate ways:
> 
> (i)  We recommended going for multiple standards instead of a multipart
>       standard.
> (ii) We rearranged the distribution of content between the SAM and the
>       syntax parts.
> 
> According to Lars Marius (the editor and primus motor behind both the SAM
> and the XTM syntax specification) the latter decision screws things up for
> him in a major way. We should take this very seriously.
> 
> Other people have also objected to the way in which the latter two
> decisions were reached.
> 
> For those reasons, I think we should do as Lars Marius suggests and
> regard N323 as the last documented consensus.
> 
> In London we should take a final decision on whether to go the multipart
> route or the multiple standard route. Provided our new work item proposal
> (N358) is approved, I think we are free to make that choice ourselves.
> (That is, although N358 states that we "expect" to develop more than one
> standard, we can still do a multipart standard, if we so choose.)
> 
> However, if we are to make progress with the SAM we *have* to resolve
> the "distribution of content" issue so that the editors can resume
> working.
> 
> I propose, therefore, that we disregard the final paragraph under
> Section 4 of N372 and ask the editors to continue work along the lines
> described in N323.
> 
> I ask everyone else to focus on N323 and say what, if anything, they
> disagree with there and what, if anything, they feel is too vague and
> needs to be expanded.
> 
> Once again, the URL is
> 
>     http://www.y12.doe.gov/sgml/sc34/document/0323.htm
> 
> Print it out! Read it! Send your comments!
> 
> I am particularly interested in knowing if the various National Body
> representatives on this list (1) agree to let N323 be our starting point
> for further discussion; (2) wish to suggest any changes to N323.
> 
> Japan? Korea? US? Canada? Germany? UK? Netherlands? Norway? Please let
> me know if you agree with this proposal.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Steve
> 
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