[sc34wg3] New JTC1 Directives

Patrick Durusau sc34wg3@isotopicmaps.org
Tue Mar 7 21:09:18 EST 2006


Martin,

A clever argument, even if not a winning one in the eyes of JTC 1! ;-)

Actually what caught my eye was N4.7, which requires a Referencing 
Explanatory Report (RER) for all nested references in the Referenced 
Specificatioin (RS). Even if that stops at the first level of 
references, that seems deeply problematic to me.

My other concern is that it puts SCs in the position of being 
"encouraged" to get other specifications or their originators to become 
part of the ISO process. I like the idea but wonder about putting 
additional burdens on the individual members of NBs. Surely ISO has paid 
staff who could forage the world for specifications that ought to be in 
ISO. I would not mind helping as the mood strikes me but this seems 
rather heavy handed.

+1 to making OASIS and W3C AROs! But what of IETF?

Hope you are having a great day!

Patrick

Martin Bryan wrote:

>Patrick
>
>Time to make OASIS and W3C AROs methinks.
>
>But actually we have an escape clause. In N4.4.1 it states:
>a justification for the referencing which shall also address the following
>aspects:
>
>- relationship of the proposed RS to existing or emerging international
>standards (and
>
>regional or other standards as appropriate) and when the RS is competing
>with or
>
>complementing an existing or emerging international standard, the rationale
>for the
>
>referencing;
>
>- the degree of market acceptance of the proposed RS; and
>
>- the rationale as to why the transposition of the proposed RS into an IS is
>inappropriate or
>
>impractical,
>
>Being totally biased (as ever) all XML-based standards are simply
>applications of IS0 8879 :-)
>
>Therefore any standard that is based on XML "complements an existing
>international standard".
>
>Transposition is inappropriate because SC34 is concerned with base
>standards, not applications thereof! [Well, its worth a try ;-)) ]
>
>Martin
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Patrick Durusau" <patrick@durusau.net>
>To: <sc34wg3@isotopicmaps.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 12:51 PM
>Subject: [sc34wg3] New JTC1 Directives
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>>Greetings!
>>
>>I am sure everyone noticed Ken pointing out the new JTC1 directives in
>>his most recent report.
>>
>>What may not have been apparent, however, is that the new directives may
>>have an impact on most of the pending topic maps drafts, most of which
>>cite non-ISO specifications as normative references.
>>
>>The revised Annex N:
>>
>>Annex N The Normative Referencing of Specifications other than
>>International Standards in JTC 1 International Standards - Guidelines for
>>JTC 1 SCs
>>
>>should be reviewed rather carefully. I only obtained a copy of it this
>>morning and should have a preliminary analysis of it by later this week.
>>It would be helpful if others could read it as well so that we can
>>compare notes and see if we reach common conclusions about it.
>>
>>You can obtain JTC001-N-8105 from http://www.jtc1.org. (It was released
>>yesterday.)
>>
>>Hope everyone is at the start of a great day!
>>
>>Patrick
>>
>>-- 
>>Patrick Durusau
>>Patrick@Durusau.net
>>Chair, V1 - Text Processing: Office and Publishing Systems Interface
>>Co-Editor, ISO 13250, Topic Maps -- Reference Model
>>Member, Text Encoding Initiative Board of Directors, 2003-2005
>>
>>Topic Maps: Human, not artificial, intelligence at work!
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Patrick Durusau
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Chair, V1 - Text Processing: Office and Publishing Systems Interface
Co-Editor, ISO 13250, Topic Maps -- Reference Model
Member, Text Encoding Initiative Board of Directors, 2003-2005

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